From jmcadams@primenet.com Mon Jan 27 13:13:50 CST 1997 Article: 5567 of alt.conspiracy.jfk.moderated Path: news.primenet.com!jmcadams From: jmcadams@primenet.com (John McAdams) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk.moderated Subject: Stockwell Critique of Files Story - 7 Date: 23 Jan 1997 21:33:06 -0700 Organization: PrimeNet Lines: 97 Approved: jmcadams@primenet.com Message-ID: <5c9e22$2dg@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: jmcadams@206.165.5.111 (jmcadams) Xref: news.primenet.com alt.conspiracy.jfk.moderated:5567 FROM: John R. Stockwell, 105475,2627 Re: Pt VII, Critique of Files's Confession 15, 35:24/59 Here, he's got Jack Ruby standing down by the sidewalk at the back of the grassy knoll. There were quite a few pictures, including the Zapruder film and the Moorman photograph that covered this exact area. JACK RUBY SIMPLY IS NOT THERE. (In fact, researchers have poured over the 850 photographs that were taken that day, drawing maps of exactly who stood where. Nobody has been able to find Jack Ruby in any of the photographs, anywhere in the Plaza area. (In other statements, Files says Dealey Plaza was like "old home week." All the old gang (Sturgis, et aliii) were there. Alas, none of them are found in the films.) P19, 42:17 Nobody has paid me any money for this interview and I have asked for nothing. In fact, I understand that Files's daughter was paid $50,000 immediately after the project was sold to Dick Clark/MPI. P23, 49:25 (Files claiming contact with Dick Helms....) This is very subjective, but a lot of the sophisticated researchers are going to scoff at this. Dick Helms was an east coast, patrician, high-level bureaucrat (he was an impressive leader, but after World War II, he mounted the ladder inside CIA headquarters.) It is extremely unlikely that he would have been meeting scruffy killers like Files. The Deputy Director of the CIA at that time was Lt.Gen. Marshall Carter, not Dick Helms. VERY ASTUTELY, Helms had distanced himself from the Bay of Pigs plan, believing that, even if it was successful, a CIA-engineered invasion of Cuba would be extremely damaging. (by the way, I can give references for all, whatever). P24 51:19 The MATS flight! Plumlees well-publicized account. (Joe West and Dick Clark's Barry Adelman videotaped an interview of Plumlee which was to be included in the Files file.) However, Files has Roselli flying in from Washington. Plumlee has the C47 flight grinding in from Florida. P26, 00:58:02 (Claims Nicoletti gave him his diary of all his hits and the Secret Service badges that had been used in Dealey Plaza.) Any seasoned researcher is going to put big question marks beside the assertion that Nicoletti kept or gave to Files his diary of all his hits. It would seem extremely unlikely that a Mafia hitman would keep such a record, and questionable that he would leave it with anyone else. P30, 01:05:42... Atlee Phillips killing more people with a typewriter is in the books. P31, 01:07:04 Lee Harvey Oswald never fired a shot.... Intimating more knowledge of an alleged plot--Files's story is growing.... P32, 01:08:51 I believe Files is the ONLY person asserting that Oswald could drive. Drove military trucks... Did Oswald have a Top Secret clearance??? P33, 01:11:28 Here he is getting the sides of Kennedys face straight. P34 01:12:41 Again, asserting knowledge of skull shots, exit wounds. Did he STUDY his victims....in these few seconds, through his telescopic sights. This is all stuff from books. In any case, he says that 60% of the back of the skull in Kennedys head was blown away. Some of the conspiricists have worked for decades to establish this --THEIR EFFORTS (and failures) ARE IN THE BOOKS